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Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:40 pm

With the D51 out of the way and the 2CV nearly done I have time to start up something new as I'm wont to do.

Luckily just now, Hachette started a new partwork and I got right on that.

The Scharnhorst is Germanys first battleship built after world war 1. This is a 140 issue partwork developed by the designers of the Bismarck partwork. Note me not saying Amati. It seems Amatis former design guy went and opened up a design studio of it's own.

Which maybe explains why this build is kinda wonky. I needed three issues 1s to get one where the included gun turret was actually buildable instead of being a mess of gaps and wrongfulness. So I think that's a terrific start to something that will either be totally awesome or a horrible horrible letdown. Either way, we'll be entertained.

Updates will be weekly, even though I have subscription, I'll build each issue only when it has also been released in the shops. This is an effort to get a bit more organized. I'm also breaking this rule in about two days because you get a two-for this week with all the replacement issues I had.

Stage: 1

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Oh good, it's MDF. Fun. I love my wood dust being toxic. Remind me to get some new breathing masks.

First phase. We build up part of the forward framework and the body of the rear gun turret. This one has the bonus of actually fitting together for the most part. The turret will be height adjustable, so that's nice. It's a bit bare right now, but that'll change next issue
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby number1 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:58 pm

Looking forward to seeing this one develop :handgestures-thumbup: , as an aside I only restarted my 1/700 scale sharnhorst this week after 3 years gathering dust!
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:23 pm

Nice to have you along for the ride.

As promised, here's update 2 to catch up with the current issue.

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The hull structure is expanded lengthwise with another segment and two frames are added.

Now I already hear the gnashing of teeth about my lack of a building slip, but with the thickness and density of these MDF boards and the amount of supports and strengtheners that will be added starting next issue, I'm convinced I won't need one. I built the hull of the Bismarck without a slip and never had an issue and that one was much less robustly built.

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I also get to add a bunch of photo etch parts to the rear 28cm gun turret.
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby Mark » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:02 pm

MDF doesn't warp, so you should be fine without a building jig. I only used a jig with the Bismarck and Hood to make sure I got the hull straight.
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:39 am

That's my thought process as well. :D


Issue 3

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Side beams and lateral supports are added to the hull structure. The rear turret is fitted with barrels. Those are are cast not lathed, which made some people unhappy, but after a quick rub with 400 grit sandpaper and a polish with steel wool, they look totally fine for me.

This is the last of the teaser issues. The build will now concentrate on the hull structure.
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:29 pm

After the usual bout of logistical problems at the start of a Hachette partwork, I'm back at building the Scharnhorst. Issue 4 lets me add 2 frames and side beams to the front structure of the ship.

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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:47 pm

Scharnhorst 5

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The middle frame is extended, another crosswise frame is added along with two lateral supports. Everything still fits nicely, there's no wiggling or jamming.

A second crosswise frame is delivered but not yet installed. This'll go into storage for a while along with a 2mm part for the gun turrets delivered in issue 1. The last one will be needed in issue 9, already the first cries of "Wait, we were supposed to keep that part?"are echoing through forums and Facebook groups. Yes, yes you keep all of the things.
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:51 am

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Issue 6: With 3 more frames and another two side beams, the Scharnhorst has now reached roughly 3/5th of her total length.

This is the point where a lot of novice builders start complaining about the side beams not fitting, them having to sand out lots of material or having to go at it with a hammer. The problem here is that those builders assume the side beams to be symmetrical along their length.

They're not.

Stick em in the wrong way around and one slot will be ever so slightly out of phase. Force them in and now you've got tension forces running all throughout your internal structure. "Fun".
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby steve131 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:41 pm

Great progress on model looking good :clap:
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:13 pm

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7: So someone at Hachette was nice enough to acknowledge my request for a sped up delivery to cancel out the start difficulties I had so here's an unscheduled update straight out of the men flu quarantine zone to get us a bit closer to the actual release schedule.

We see here the addition of another middle frame segment as well two crosswise frames and lateral supports. We've reached the 5 percent completion point with this issue.
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:33 pm

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Back to your regularly scheduled Scharnhorst update, with issue 8 I have now extended the build to the full length of the hull. Now do be careful, if this thing eventually goes on sale internationally (at least in Europe) and you decide to build one yourself, do yourself the favor of waiting for issue 9 and fit the side beams at the same time.

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As you can see in the picture above "officially" the entire stern segment is only kept in line through two little tabs on the middle frame. No side beams are present. This a the perfect recipe to make a banana. Wait for issue 9, then fit everything together at the same time. You'll be much happier. I've just left them off in the picture for demonstration purposes.
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby number1 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:27 pm

Good tip greyhawk, hope it comes to the UK :pray:
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby Hilux5972 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:48 pm

I hope it makes it way to NZ too. I don't have room in my display cabinet, but it would look great alongside Hood and Bismarck.
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:44 pm

Issue 9


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The last side beams arrive and are added to the hull structure (As mentioned I already did that together with issue 8 to be sure everything sits ok)

I also get to build the base of the second 28mm turret "Bruno". This one differs a bit from "Caesar" which was built in issues 1-3 in that there are 2 small parts added to the upper back (we suspect these are storage containers for tarps). One of the parts came with this issue, the other one is the one you needed to retain from issue 1. 
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby wingnut » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:06 pm

Hi Greyhawk, nice job so far, I like the EP work on the turret.
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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:28 am

Yes, the PE is lovely and very nice to work with

Scharnhorst Issue 10


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Photo etch is added to the second 28cm gun turret and the barrels are test fitted


Both 28cm guns done so far side by side

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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:18 pm

Scharnhorst part 11: Every 4th frame is doubled up with 4 support parts each. This will make it easier to lay down the first planking (which is still a ways off). It is now that one will see if one worked cleanly enough while putting together the hull structure. Any dried glue will interfere with placement of the supports.

One of the Youtube model builders doing this kit will have a lot of "fun" with this as he tends to drench his models in glue until they look somewhat akin to dripping candles.

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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby builder76 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:01 am

Greyhawk,
Although not a boat builder myself,I do enjoy seeing you guys build em` 8-)

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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:24 am

Nice to have you, John.

Scharnhorst issue 12:

Now usually at this point we would start planking the hull, but this kit does things a bit differently, so instead we start building the stern deck structures. I guess they want to get the easy stuff out of the way first.

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Re: Schlachtschiff Scharnhorst (1:200, Hachette)

Postby greyhawk » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:13 am

Scharnhorst issue 13.

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More parts are added to the aft deck structure. Little tabs on the bottom slot against the hull support frames and keep the deck structure in alignment.
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