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Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:40 am
by Mark
Looking good so far ! I watched a little bit of the film the other night (didn't watch it all - not enough superheroes for my taste :laughing-rolling: ) and noticed that it looked like the patched the wing join with sheet metal. Perhaps lead foil salvaged from wine bottle tops would work ? Just a thought.

Ps. I know you don't drink, so just send the wine to me. I'll open it for you and send back the lead foil :laughing-rolling:

Pps. Make sure it's a good wine. The cheap wines only have plastic caps which is no good :whistle:

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:12 pm
by Eric
A very generous and thoughtful offer Mark!

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:32 pm
by royjess
Thanks for all your kind comments and suggestions.

I think the easy part of my build is now out of the way.

It looks like it's going to get more difficult from now onward. I'll be watching many hours of video footage and making drawings to try and get all the detailing and additional bits right.

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:56 pm
by Jesscheekylee
Looking good ;) and the Phoenix looks good too x


Wife x

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:36 am
by Sojourner
Mark wrote:Looking good so far ! I watched a little bit of the film the other night (didn't watch it all - not enough superheroes for my taste :laughing-rolling: ) and noticed that it looked like the patched the wing join with sheet metal. Perhaps lead foil salvaged from wine bottle tops would work ? Just a thought.

Ps. I know you don't drink, so just send the wine to me. I'll open it for you and send back the lead foil :laughing-rolling:

Pps. Make sure it's a good wine. The cheap wines only have plastic caps which is no good :whistle:


Ha, I suspect I'm nearer to Watton than you, Mark, so I'll volunteer for this task, and I don't even mind screw-top vino... :) in which case I'll willingly supply some thin foil for the mod.

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:38 am
by royjess
Sojourner wrote:
Mark wrote:Looking good so far ! I watched a little bit of the film the other night (didn't watch it all - not enough superheroes for my taste :laughing-rolling: ) and noticed that it looked like the patched the wing join with sheet metal. Perhaps lead foil salvaged from wine bottle tops would work ? Just a thought.

Ps. I know you don't drink, so just send the wine to me. I'll open it for you and send back the lead foil :laughing-rolling:

Pps. Make sure it's a good wine. The cheap wines only have plastic caps which is no good :whistle:


Ha, I suspect I'm nearer to Watton than you, Mark, so I'll volunteer for this task, and I don't even mind screw-top vino... :) in which case I'll willingly supply some thin foil for the mod.


Looks like no one has forgotton or forgiven me for what I did with the contents of the bottle in last years comp :?

Roy :)

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:35 pm
by Mark
Forgiven ? certainly ! Forgotten ? Not a chance :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:46 pm
by Sojourner
At the risk of a boring anecdote....
Years ago I put a ship in a Courvoisier brandy bottle, and showed it to a workmate. I jokingly said, "well of course I had to tip the brandy down the sink..." :laughing-rolling:
She believed me. :shock:

PS. I'm new here, but I did read your build diary for the bottled ship, Roy......
I don't want to hijack your thread, so I've posted a pic of the "Brandied Ship" on the Miscellaneous Model board.

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:00 pm
by royjess
I don't mind people hijacking as long as it is of interest, by the way I love your ship in bottle :clap:

And if you are wondering, yes I really did pour the content of the bottle down the sink, no joke hand on heart. :)

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:55 pm
by royjess
Today I started to build the landing gear. I'll let the glue fully set before I glue the other half and fit it to the plane.

The landing gear under each wing will be scratch built.

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To be continued.....

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:46 pm
by royjess
I glued the A frame and the wheels to the landing gear.

I've not glued the landing gear to the undercarriage yet it is just test fitted. I will glue this at a later date.

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To be continued...

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:14 pm
by casper
doing a great job roy :)

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:33 pm
by chill
Wow thats coming along at a good rate. :clap:

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:39 pm
by Sojourner
Great stuff, Roy, you're getting on a lot faster than I am with my entry(s).
Are you going to set the plane in a diorama?

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:00 pm
by royjess
Thanks for your kind comments, I think I still got the more tricky bits to come with the build yet.

Yes I do plan to put both complete models into a diorama with a scene from the film, but for the comp, I'll be only entering the Phoenix.

Roy

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:59 pm
by royjess
It might seem like I've not done any work on my build in the last week, but I have been very busy.

I've also been studying some photos of the phoenix to work out exactly where things need to go.

I've notice that there will be quiet a few modification that will need doing to the kit in addition to adding detail.

I notice that the undercarriage needs to be moved forward.

This is how I originally fitted it as instructed.

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But I've now moved it forward as in the film.

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I've also marked out and drilled out holes for the detailing on top.

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I've used some aluminium tubing to fit the wheels to the wings. Now looking at it, I think the undercarriage and tubing need to be shorten. I will also need to add some more tubing to the wheel supports for under the wings.

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If you take a closer look at the wheels, I added some brass rod to make the axles.

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To be continued....

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:37 pm
by royjess
As this is a competition, I decided that I was going to make sure that I'm 100% happy with each step of this build before I move on to the next.

I wasn't happy with the height of the landing gear, it certainly was too high compared to the film. So I shortened the landing gear and fixed some brass rod into the ends by drilling out the ends first. These were used to fix the landing gear to the fuselage.

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It's now looking a lot better, I also remade the rods that fitted underneath the wings and I preposition the brass axles which are now perfectly in the center of the wheels. I also fitted some brass rod to support the wing aluminum tubing in keeping with the film.

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As you can see, I also attached the brass rods above the wings and around the cockpit. These will be trimmed to the correct length.

To be continued....

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:28 pm
by royjess
More work was done on fitting the brass rods on and above the wings to support the wind shields.

I got a shot of my thumb to show how tiny the rods were, very fiddly and the superglue seemed to have glue everything that I didn't want to stick and struggled to glue the rods in position as gravity seemed to have taken over. But I got there in the end.

The rods are not neat or even, but that is how they are in the film. The plane is really beginning to look like the Phoenix.

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To be continued...

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:22 pm
by Mark
Looking very good Roy. It's certainly an ambitious project !

Re: Fairchild Boxcar to Phoenix

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:27 pm
by royjess
Thanks Mark, you comments are very much appreciated. I think making the cockpit controls will be very ambitions :shock:

I'm not too happy with the cross bars as I glued these resting on the wings and they should be raised slightly, so I carefully removed these without damaging the rest of my work and I carefully re-glued them in place a little higher.

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The propeller that is supplied is different to that used in the film, so I had to reshape the propellers by rounding the ends and thinning them and I had to convert this from a four propeller to a three propeller. The geometric diagram below it was drawn to get the angles right.

The kit came with two propellers and the one on the left is before the one on the right has been modified.

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By studying the photos, I notice that the plane has some rails, but these could only be clearly seen in the one photo, but very hard to see in the others, this made it very difficult to decided where these go. After a lot of studying the photos, I came to the conclusion that these were near the end of the wings, now I've fitted them, it is now very obvious where they are in the other photos, but only just barely visible.

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To be continued...