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Rivets

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:40 am
by chill
Sorry to jump ahead a bit , but having just watched the DVD supplied wth Issue 1 it shows the modellor using a pin wheel. Any ideas where to get one of these from as it looks like it fits into an Xcto knife shaft. Thought I would start saving my pennies up now so I could get one. Also I was thinking of skinning all of fthe ariframe but only gluing some sides on and leaving the other side loose so I could leave various panels of to show the detail on each side.

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:56 pm
by snapdragon
Hi Chill,

News for you and other builders regarding the pinwheel.

For subscribers they will get one in the kit of tools they will recieve. after speaking to Hachette in London they have informed me that further into the build they will probably (or more than likley, as the pinwheel is a valuable part of the build) be placing an offer sheet in the magazine for non-subscibers.

Hope this answers your question

James

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:00 pm
by chill
Thanks James.

As you can guess I am not a subscriber - so that would be good if theres an future offer of the pin wheel.

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:56 am
by Eric
Same for me, I have'nt subscribed this time, I'm getting my issues from my local WH Smiths.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:17 pm
by Russ
I wouldnt normally Subscribe however this time i decided t give it a go

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:40 pm
by wurzel384
just bought a pinwheel from whit ensign models for less than a tenner

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:09 pm
by chill
any chance of a hyper link?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:14 pm
by BRUCE
WITH THIS ALUMINIUM SKIN BEING APPLIED OVER THE PLYWOOD FRAME I CAN SEE A WEE PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO PAINTING THE INTERIOR OF THE PLANE (I.E THE INTERIOR WILL HAVE TO BE PAINTED BLACK OR GREY/GREEN). I AM MORE USED TO BUILDING PLASTIC KITS, AND WONDER WHAT ANYONE THINKS IS THE BEST SOLUTION.

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:04 am
by Eric
Um, good point Bruce...In the introduction for the kit there is a mention of leaving off some outer panels to be able to see inside, I would guess that you could put on the panels on the side with the openings first, paint the inside of them, then put on the panels on the other side and maybe paint that side through the openings?

Sounds a bit of a fiddle to do, hopefully Hachette have a cunning plan in mind!

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:09 pm
by Southendnick
Do not forget if you leave the panel off one side paint the back of the panel on the opposite side. got access to propper very expensive genuine aircraft primer its called Boeing Green and is top notch stuff...


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Sadly as you can see a far far too lighter shade for use on the Lancaster...

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:42 pm
by Mark
I had access to a green etching primer while I was in a shipyard in Korea - can't remember the name off hand, but the colour was about right. The only trouble was I couldn't ship it (very flameable) and I understand it contained a chemical that is banned in Europe. It was good stuff though. Stuck like peanut butter to the roof of your mouth. It was used to primer the cargo holds of a liquid natural gas carrier (carried 155,000 cublic metres of liquified gas and -160C) before gluing on the insulation.

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:50 pm
by snapdragon
You could all try a simpler method and paint the airframe as you're going along. THis not only seals the wood but means that when the time comes you can choose the panels to leave off with not many problems!

The exact shade you need for the airframe I managed to get from the Lancaster at the Lincolnshaire aviation heritage. I normally use Vallejo model colour and I matched the airframe shade to the following colour:

Vallejo Model color 70886 Green Grey

There's no reason why, at this stage of construction you shouldn't start painting while it's easy to get at!!!

James

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:13 pm
by 9JL
I agree James and there is a plus when using Acrylics as opposed to enamels,that is you can use PVA adhesive on top without recourse to removal of any paint,Acrylic is a polyvinyl based finish so is compatible.
I quite like the painting as you go along it breaks it down into stages and you have the feel of progress,they do this with full sized aircraft as well during production.

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:15 pm
by 9JL
chill wrote:Thanks James.

As you can guess I am not a subscriber - so that would be good if theres an future offer of the pin wheel.


You can easily make your own pin wheels by robbing a gear from an old clock of suitable pitch,mount this onto a spindle in any old paintbrush handle etc

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:35 am
by chill
True - but i wouldnt know at what intervals to put the pins in in order to get the correct spacing on the rivets.

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:37 pm
by 9JL
chill wrote:True - but i wouldnt know at what intervals to put the pins in in order to get the correct spacing on the rivets.


Something that we need to check,if anyone has access to a full sized Lancaster can they please measure the pitch of the rivets so that we can work out the correct pitch on our pinwheels please ?

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:28 pm
by chill
ooo would love to get next to a lancaster bomber.

Got lots of tape measures,

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:21 am
by 9JL
chill wrote:ooo would love to get next to a lancaster bomber.

Got lots of tape measures,


There is one at Duxford,Cambs,a fuselage in the Imperial War museum,a one that taxies in Lincolnshire owned by two brothers who are farmers,the Battle of Britain memorial flight aircraft,are any of those near you Chill ?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:45 am
by chill
No they are not Im next to Mancheseter. Although I do see the planes at least once a year flying over.

Re: Rivets

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:44 am
by 9JL
Treat yourself to a trip to Duxford,the museum is superb and they have a Lancaster for you to stand by as well.