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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby wingnut » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:18 pm

Hi Mark, beautiful work :clap: your time and patience's are showing through :clap:
Keep up the good work ! somebody is getting a work of art !
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby casper » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:52 am

Looks fantastic Mark
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Mark » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:56 am

Thanks guys. It's coming on nicely. I've moved all the photos in the thread to Flickr, and I've got some more to take and I've made some more progress.
Masts 3/4 done, oars 1/3 done, Rollocks done, and it's had a bit more paint. Another update soon.......
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Mark » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:57 am

Sorry, it's been a while since I uploaded any photos. There has been progress, but it's been kinda slow going. Adding the details seems to take a long time and you don't see much progress. Anyway, here we go.

A couple of shots showing overall progress.

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Bow details. The 'leather' knee pad (or whatever it is !) was made from a foil cap rescued from a wine bottle. You have to buy really good wine to get a proper lead foil cap these days. Most of them have plastic, or plastic backed foil, which doesn't 'work so well. (and it's a great excuse to buy a bottle of good wine !)

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Stern details

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The cut-out in thwart 2 for the mast. I made the cut-out central, but there is something not quite symmetrical about my model. When I tried the mast, it wasn't upright. I ended up fiddling it by offsetting the mast step (I think it's called that) and 'moving the cut-out by trimming one side and adding a shaving of wood the other.

The copper strips were a right pain to do. Took all flaming evening to get them right.

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Oar shafts all tapered.

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Blades

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Masts

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I got a tailor to make the sail. I don't have a sewing machine, and wasn't going to spend weeks sewing it by hand.
Here is a shot with the rigging in progress.

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I've only got just over a week to finish it now, but it's not too far off.
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Andi Little » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:56 am

Wow, mark, they're going to be so thrilled with that, it looks smashing - really looks the part. I think you've done remarkedly well with this kit; as now I'm into it myself I can appreciate just how much backwards and forwards thinking one has to do in order to make sense of what it is you're trying to achieve.

Well done chap ... huzzahs from me.
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby royjess » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:15 am

Wow! (sorry Andi, this word came to mind before I even scrolled down to your post) Looking soo good. You've done a fantastic job so far and I'm sure that you will do your wife's niece very proud :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby casper » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:37 am

Absolutely brilliant build Mark :clap: :clap: she looks amazing.
What a fantastic wedding gift, I'm sure your friends will be amazed and so happy with it.
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby builder76 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:09 pm

Very nice build so far Mark. Should be a cracking wedding present. :angelic-sunshine:
Although not a boat builder myself I do enjoy watching the postings of those that boat build. :D 8-)

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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Mark » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:59 pm

Thanks for all the compliments chaps. I'm sure they will be pleased with it. I have to say, it's a very nice model, and it makes a nice change from the more usual fully rigged sailing ships. I could almost be tempted to get another one to build for myself.
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Mark » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:48 am

The boat is finished now, packed up, and on it's way to Beijing. Unfortunately they chose a weekday for the wedding so my daughter and I couldn't go - SWMBO is on a plane now !

Anyway, on to some photos.

Rigging in progress. I got a seamstress to make the sail as I don't have a sewing machine and didn't fancy doing it by hand !

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Rigging removed so I can add some details.

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Coils of rope around the eyes where the running rigging will be tied off. The buckets of rope are resin parts, painted with Games Workshop paints. There is a layer of card, and just a single layer of rope.

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Similar things in the stern.

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More later - I've got to get back to work now.....
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Mark » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:34 pm

The pointy end, complete with bucket and anchor. The loops of rope are all painted with diluted PVA to hold them on one piece.

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The rope buckets. These should actually be connected together, but I wanted to leave the accessories loose so the owner can reposition them, or leave them out, as they like. The harpoons aren't rigged either.

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The harpoon stand. The instructions said make this from wood, but it was easier to make it from the left over copper tube.

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Oars and tools....

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The competed boat

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There we have it ! A great kit to build, but not one for the beginner. Looking forward to seeing Andi's interpretation, and I don't think his model will represent quite such a pristine example !!
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Andi Little » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:09 pm

Brilliant Mark - it really does look an absolute treat. The boat itself was a cracker enough to inspire me to have a go as you know - but with all the tools and accessories, rigged and mounted ... well, I'm sure the happy couple will be over the moon - and so they should be.
Was the idea of a boat as a wedding gift an inspired notion, or does it have some spiritual or other significance?

Huzzahs from me Mark - bliddly well-done sir!
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby number1 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:25 pm

Superb, I'm sure the newlyweds to be will be over the moon, well done.
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Mark » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:07 pm

Thanks for the kind words. Our niece had stayed with us whist we were in the UK and had seen my work. She just asked for a model. I don't think that there is any special significance. I gather they are pleased with it, and it arrived unscathed.
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby casper » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:18 am

wow fantastic work mark she looks absolutely fantastic :text-bravo: :clap:
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby royjess » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:33 am

Looks lovely, this will make a lovely wedding present. :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Tony Farrell » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:30 pm

I have been making this Amati model for some time but I have got stuck on the hull planking - can you help?
The numbering system on the diagram MUST be wrong? It inidcates that the garboard strake (the plank nearest the keel)is the longest of all of them and this cannot be accurate. In fact it would be the shortest of the plank runs? So I assumed that they just got the numbering the wrong way around. This has worked OK for the first 7 strakes on either side but the final plank doesn't quite reach from sternpost to stempost.
I am interested to know how you got around these problems.
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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Mark » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:21 pm

Hi Tony,

Welcome to the forum. This was probably the most difficult hull I've planked! It's a real challenge, but you already know that!!

I don't remember the planks being numbered wrongly, but this photo shows fairly clearly the planks and you can still see the pencil numbers on them. The longest plank must be the top one. I recall the garboard plank has tapered ends rather than

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The top plank did fit, and the keel was made according to the plan, but I may have placed everything slightly lower down the hull. However, it wouldn't have been for than a few millimetres. I think the freeboard at the middle of the boat is a bit lower than the plans, so that the top plank takes the natural line, if you see what I mean. It's going back about 3 years now, and I didn't keep the plans, so I haven't got anything to check back against. I think I got the top plank in the right position, then added the intermediate planks, all with masking tape, so I could adjust things until it looked right. Even then, it took two goes, and per the entry in my diary. Also, don't forget that the top plank bottom edge is raised 1mm from the frame by the plank beneath it. This also makes a difference to how it lays.

Here's a link to the entire album on Flickr. There may be some photos on there that aren't in the diary which may give you a clue.

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Sorry it's all a bit vague, but I hope it helps.

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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Tony Farrell » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:56 pm

Hi Mark,
Thank you for your prompt reply and for going to the trouble of answering my query.
But I am still a bit stuck. I have actually made quite a few ship models - some of them much more complicated than this one. But . . . this one is proving difficult because of the rather curious template system, the poor English translation of the Italian instructions and some vagueness in the plans.
On the instructions it shows that the garboard strake, nearest the keel, is number 23. But on the full size strake diagrams it is clear that plank 30 is the shortest and shaped to fit nearest the keel - so, the numbering system on the instructions must be wrong?
I have taken photos of the plans and of my model to illustrate what I am saying but I am new to this website and can't get them to load into my text/
Sorry to seem rather helpless.
You obviousle overcame the planking problems and produced an excellent finished model! I have been shelving this for several years (!!!!!!) but want to sort it now.

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Re: Amati Bedford Whaleboat - 1860

Postby Mark » Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:23 pm

Hi Tony,

Like you, I've built a few model ships, and some of them look much more impressive that this one. But this is certainly the most difficult planking job I've done.

Can you upload the photos to Flickr? Then you can click on the share photo icon, select BBcode and a size of medium (600x800) seems about right.
Then just copy the code the web site presents you, and paste it into your post. I can give you more precise instructions if this brief guide isn't clear. Just ask.
That's the simplest way, and Flickr is free for up to 1000 photos I think.

There was another chap, Andi, building this kit on the forum. Unfortunately all his photos seem to have disappeared from the build diary. However, he does have some on Facebook. Not sure if they're visible publicly, but worth a click to try.

https://www.facebook.com/andrew.michael ... 474&type=3

His build diary is here, although it's not much help without the photos. He had problems with the planking too.......

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Thanks for the compliment on the model. I was pleased with the final result, but it was built as a wedding present, so I had a deadline and motivation!!!
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