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San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:08 pm
by Mustang
Started to build this cross section from Artesania,

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But I wanted to change some of it.

I didn't like the way the ribs are done as it looks wrong, so I wanted to deduce the outer walls and add an inner side wall to the Galleon as the model doesn't
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:17 pm
by Mustang
First job was to deduce the thickness of the ribs.
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But I needed to keep the beam supports for later.

I built the ribs up as per the institutions as secured the bottom floor with tape while I built up the inner walls, the lighter pieces of woods are the main support of the new deck beams
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In order to work out the hight of the decks I added them in as a dry run so they are not glued in place. I did mark on the ribs before removing the deck supports where they went.
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:23 pm
by Mustang
Once I had added the new inner walls, I need to get the walls to continue down to the bottom of the keel as shown by the line.
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I also wanted to extend the ends of the galleon by 10mm either end, so I need to build new end sections.
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All I needed to do was add 10mm sections to the rib sides.
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This is what I ended up with.
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:28 pm
by Mustang
I also wanted to change the ribs from what you will see, so added some thin walnut.
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:36 am
by Mark
That's a great improvement over the original kit Mustang. Have to say, that the oob kit (or at least the picture on the lid) looks far from my idea of museum quality.

Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:43 pm
by casper
Interesting project Mustang :) really like the cross section builds.
great start :clap:

Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:36 pm
by Mustang
Mark wrote:That's a great improvement over the original kit Mustang. Have to say, that the oob kit (or at least the picture on the lid) looks far from my idea of museum quality.


Thank you Mark, I agree this is not a museum piece if you build it straight oob, I hope what I've got in mind to do will make it look a lot more like a museum piece.

Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:37 pm
by Mustang
casper wrote:Interesting project Mustang :) really like the cross section builds.
great start :clap:

cheers Casper

Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:42 pm
by Mustang
So deck added.
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:47 pm
by Mustang
I then need to replace the deck supports that I removed.

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Needed to reshape them.
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All replaced, and new deck beams added.
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:51 pm
by Mustang
Next was to add the beam support pillars from 3mm dowl.
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All 8 done.
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:01 pm
by Mustang
Next the second deck, I penciled in the lines on the bottom so it looked more like planks when viewed, this wasn't in the instructions.
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You'll notice I've added the mast support also, the instruction don't added these until all the desk are in.
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Once the deck had been temporally added I added the 10mm to the ends.
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The other end has the opening for the gratting, the instructions show the beam left in which I didn't like so that was removed, as I've extended the ends it means I can close of this area so it looks better. Which you will see later on in the build, also ill be changing the way the ladders are done as again they don't look right.
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:01 am
by casper
great work Mustang, nice support pillars :)

Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:46 pm
by steve131
Great work ,improvements enhance it x million.

Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:06 pm
by Mark
Nice work on the planking Ian. Looks very effective. Your improvements are making the model a lot better than the original design.

Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:57 pm
by Mustang
Thanks guys.

Middle deck in, there is a very slight gap along the edge which the camera didn't pick up.
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But I wasn't worried as I've added the Waterway.
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This is the deck finished, the instructions then go on to install the next deck, but I'll be jumping a little bit to add the parts that will be hard to do once the next deck is in place.
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You can see in the photo where I have extended the decks by the 10mm this was so I could close of the hatch area, so the hatch is 5mm wider and 5mm on the deck.

Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:49 pm
by casper
looks really great already Ian :clap:

Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:14 pm
by Mustang
Thank you Casper.

So the instructions tell you to carry on with the next deck, which is fine except trying to get the following in would be a little hard.

The Capstan.

I replaced the white pole piece of wood with a darker piece which I had to make from a square piece.
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I also drilled the bottom piece so the pole had more support then just sitting on top, I also made it longer so it goes into the next deck so I can aline the upper capstan.
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:21 pm
by Mustang
So the deck parts are in place, you can also see that I have closed of the grating so it looks better. I also done this because the upper deck supports are shown inline with the bottom once, this would mean they sit on top of the grating edge support which is wrong so I'll be moving them about 2mm towards the ship sides.
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Re: San Francisco Cross Section

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:25 pm
by Mustang
Next the canons which again you don't install until the upper deck is in.

This is how the instructions show then, don't look that great.
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So a little look on the www and I see they can also be done like this.
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All the ropes have had wood glue rubbed into them so they stiffen up as these will go in later.