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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby Jesscheekylee » Mon May 22, 2017 8:33 pm

Thank you for your comments which I've taken on-board. At the moment Roy is squeezing the glue for me. I've added some bits to the front of the tank.

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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby snapdragon » Mon May 22, 2017 11:20 pm

looking good, Jess! Desert colour too!
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby Jesscheekylee » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:37 pm

Hi all, sorry it has been a long while coming back to this build. On 13th of October last year I was in the middle of doing some more to this build when I got a phone call to say my Grandad had passed away. So I am now starting to carry it on and I am dedicating this build to his memory. However I would like to do a plane in his memory too, but I will concentrate on this first. Maybe the Memphis Belle.

This is the build so far.

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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby snapdragon » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:02 am

Looking good Jess

Paintwise, if you use and airbrush I would recommend this:

Not often seen on armoured vehicles and only used 1940-41

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AK-Interactive-The-Caunter-Scheme-1940-41-Africa-and-Mediterranean-AK4030/282826749926?hash=item41d9c9b7e6:g:bd4AAOSwcexZn~mR

You could also use the 1942 disruptive pattern which would be found on crusader tanks

Base colour Desert Pink ZI (AK 4073)

Disruptive pattern:
Dark Olive Green PFI (AK 4072)

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You will need to use an airbrush though!!! :)
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby Jesscheekylee » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:25 am

Thanks Snapdragon. Roy has to show me how to use a airbrush. It will be my first time, I am a airbrush virgin. I just hope I don't mess it up.
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby snapdragon » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:53 pm

No problems, Jess.

Everybody has to start somewhere and every model is an adventure with something new to learn.

Airbrushes are surprisingly easy to use and you might want to get some paper and just mess about drawing lines etc until you get the hang of the double action of the air/paint release.

Every time you use an airbrush your technique improves and everything gets better and easier. Muscle memory starts to kick in and your paint release and air control gets better. You might not realise what is happening but your conscious mind and sub conscious mind are exchanging information all the time that skills are being developed and airbrushing is a skill!

The second scheme is the one I would go with for your Tank. It is easy to do for a first timer.

First, an all over coat of primer and then let it dry overnight. Most airbrush paints tend to dry quickly these days, but there's no point in rushing.

The second day, the primer has cured properly so we can then do the base coat in all over Desert Pink. Again, leave that overnight to cure properly.

Third day. Apply the disruptive pattern colour freehand. You can put as much or as little as you want, but the general rule is a total 1/3 of the vehicle only. The idea was to try and to break up the vehicle outline.

You can get varying shades of colour depending on the paint thickness and with this tank the paint wants to be at full colour strength. Don't ladle it on though. Keep it light and moving. Multiple passes until the needed colour depth is there.

Try and restrict yourself to about 20 minute sessions.

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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby Mark » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:09 pm

Sorry to hear about your Grandad Jess. Your Crusader is looking great. A very neat build.

Good luck with the painting, but you've got an excellent teacher (and somebody to clean it afterwards ;) )

I do recommend getting some surgical gloves. I always wear one on my left hand as it saves me painting my nails! After all, who want Japanese Dark Green nails :lol: (oh, and the rest of my hands - I'm a messy painter! Make sure you get the unpowdered ones. The talc would really mess up the paint!
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby royjess » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:06 pm

Hi James,

Don't forget that due to the nature of Jess' medical conditions that she was born with, she has limited mobility and strength in her upper and lower body including her hands and arms. We will keep thing simple for Jess to start with but I will be here helping Jess out where she needs it as usual.

If Jess had it her way, it will be pink :shock:
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby steve131 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:29 pm

:clap: Great work Jess 8-)
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby Jesscheekylee » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:12 pm

I have now finished and is ready to be painted. Roy will help me use the airbrush.

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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby number1 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:37 am

You've done a good job there Jess, hope the paint behaves for you ;)
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby snapdragon » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:49 am

Hi Roy and Jess

I had no idea about Jess' conditions apart that she wasn't well.

Pink would be an unusual colour, but DESERT PINK even better :D :laughing-rolling:

As a qualified equestrian instructor I would volunteer some of my time off and help and teach at one of the London riding schools with disabled groups under the Riding for the Disabled Association (RDA). This may help Jess physically and in other ways and I have seen some very emotional things during my lessons including teaching a blind rider how to do dressage!

I myself was born with Spina Bifida and was very lucky that our family GP was a very shrewd guy and had me off in an ambulance to Sheffield kids hospital within minutes and waited until I was nearly there before ringing them.

I had an operation to correct the deformity and spent every day under close supervision in the local swimming pool - I even made the local paper. The army was not really happy but I had a full medical and extra physical tests and passed them 100%.

Jess - you have done really well with this. Just a bit of painting now!

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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby royjess » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:32 pm

Hi James,

My parents used to own a palomino pony when I was young, he was kept at White Stubbs Lane stables opposite Broxbourne zoo (Paradise wild life park) where they hosted RDA. So we are fully aware of the RDA. However I'm not oblige to talk too much about Jess's condition due to confidentiality, but all that I can say, is that the hospital specialist will go up the wall if Jess was to get on a horse. She has 2 rare medical conditions and her bones and joints are not genetically strong or formed like ours, so are far too weak and are very difficult/impossible to repair if damage. It is also advisable that Jess is not allowed in a swimming pool even for hydrotherapy as the water pressure/resistance will cause further irreparable damage to her bones.

I'm pleased to hear that you have passed your full medical and physical test with 100%

I think our next step will be to make some photo frame bases for both tanks before we paint them.

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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby royjess » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:32 pm

Jess and I decided that we were going to build picture frame base's like I did for the Xmas comp.

I picked up 2 frames from my local discount store. These are slightly bigger than that I used for the Kubelwagen, and they only had 1 black one left, so I got a white one which I will need to paint black. So Jess will be getting the black frame.

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We removed the glass and then glued the hardboard backing back in place using PVA white wood glue, all held in place by weights until the glue dries.

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I hope that I've got some balsa wood left, otherwise I'll have to order some :think:

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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby royjess » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:06 pm

I was out of both balsa wood and foam sheets, so I had to order some more. They have arrived now and I made up the bases ready to start landscaping them

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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby royjess » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:22 am

The bases were covered with Das modelling clay, before the clay dried, the tyre tracks were pressed into the clay using clingfilm over the clay to protect the tank tyres. Then stones and sand was added and left to dry. Once dried, a water/PVA mix was used to seal the sand and stones onto the clay.

The left hand one is mine and Jess did the right hand one

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I coated both tanks with primer using an air brush.


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I also coated the bases with Vallejo dessert sand primer and the sides with Vallejo black. I also coated the white photo frame with black primer too.

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Jess wasn't well enough to be able to paint these, but we are hoping that she may find the energy to do a little bit of airbrushing and also to apply some of the paint by hand brush.

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The tanks and bases will need more layers of paint and shading before it finished.

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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby Mark » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:01 am

Great work all round :clap: :dance: :clap: I hope Jess finds the energy to try some painting soon.
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby snapdragon » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:20 am

Looking good. I too hope that Jess gets to do a bit of airbrushing too. There's no rush though!

Has she chosen colours yet?
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby royjess » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:58 am

Thanks for your comments. We are both decided to go for a sandy desert colour for our tanks. I'm hoping that Jess can do some airbrushing, we can't use the paints around our birds, and being that Jess is immobilised and needs to be comfortable, it can take an hour to spray 4 layers of thing coats per colour allowing 15 mins in-between coats, an hour with Jess not being laid out in her usual chair and having to move her is not ideal, but I'm hoping that she will manage a little bit, but we will have to wait and see how she feels when we next have some free time.
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Re: Nuffield Crusader Tank MkII and MKIII

Postby royjess » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:07 pm

Did some more work on the bases today. I sprayed some dark shading tones onto the base.

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I randomly picked out some of the stones in various shades of browns and creams. This is my base.

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Jess also painted her own stones, but I forgot to take a picture of it so the next one is with her base in the middle of having a wash applied to it. The track marks in the base are yet to have a wash apply to it.

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