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Postby Bazza » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:02 am

Hi all,

22 November 2017
Due to the fact that photobucket is not an option, this thread that I started in 2012 is slowly being updated as of November 2017.
I have left a lot of initial framing and first layer planking information and photos from this diary as I am sure most of you will be proficient in this area. But if anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.
I am expanding it as far as I can and modifying my old posts including additional notes and a lot of extra photos.
The model was extensively damaged 7 years ago.
Recently I began restoring and continuing the build, but yet again, circumstances have postponed my continuance.
I will update this dairy to the point i had to yet again stop.
The build is about 75% completed, but there are heaps of fiddly bits yet to do.

Here are a couple of photos that give you an idea of the current build state.
The diary itself starts after first planking is complete

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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:11 am

I will start at the beginning.
My first challenge was to build a slight camber into the deck.
At this scale, the camber is quite small, but it is noticable.
The challenge will be to fit the deck houses, when the time comes,
However, I plan to deck the ship with individual planks, so that will help.

I will add more photos and comments because other site photos from photobucket now is defunct, so to speak
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:42 am

Next ..... I wanted to add a toe rail or gunnel to the deck.
My initial construction plan failed.
The first 3 pics below are how not to do it !!!!!!!

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So it was back to the drawing board
I purchased a Dremel and a router attachment.
The Dremel was a brilliant investment

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Using old dental drills, I was able to cut a fine groove approximately 1mm in from the outer planking and insert a thin piece of timber.

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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:03 pm

The stern section posed 2 challenges.
The gunnel and the fact that the anchor housing of even the second mould supplied was not close enough to the deck
Here are a set of photos of my construction process.
It is a bit complicated and although the end result brought the anchor housing nearer the deck, it is still not close enough.
Oh well .... such is life, I can live with it
When I initially test fitted it, I was a bit disappointed as the fit between the deck and the framework looked terrible, or so I thought.
But the fix was simple, and it brought the anchor housing closer to its real life location
Once in place as a test, I was pleased to note I had an approximate 1mm lip for most the second planking.
Then I glued the toe rail, outer skin and hawser guide (or whatever it called) to the stern decking.
Next, after much measuring, pencil marks and test fitting, I glued the stern to the stern decking. ( This is not a task for the faint hearted). I still didn't get it 100% right, but it was close.

The bow section posed no problems.
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:07 pm

Second planking complete including bilge keel
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:26 pm

At this point there is one recommendation I will make

DO NOT USE THE 3 PLY PORTHOLE SECTIONS WITH THE PORT HOLES DURING SECOND PLANKING
You will have enough offcuts from the limewood to usee them as a substitute.
Then wait for the paper templates to drill your portholes.
It will save a lot of frustration and make it much easier to get correct hull shape when the final sanding is required.
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:36 pm

I wanted to to build anchor rings similar to the real ship.
The model supplies only a piece of wire to be used as a representation.
Finding the right 'modelling clay' was a challenge
I tried using Green stuff, but this proved too difficult to mould into shape and fiddle with.
I ended up using an epoxy putty called PC-Marine.
Recommended for marine, pool and spa repairs.
(Great for bumbling modelers like me too)
Sets in about 20 minutes and cures in an hour.
It can then be cut with a sharp knife or sanded.
It was very malleable, easy to manipulate and quite sticky
The result was pleasing and realistic
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:02 pm

So, unless you want to play around inserting brass portholes, the hull can be be given an undercoat of paint and put aside for a while, preferably out of reach of any jumping feline critters.
There is one other suggestion I would make before the first undercoat. That is to give your second planking a couple of coats of sanding sealer, sanding each one. This will serve to strengthen the wood fibers and fill any small hollows.
I did add a paravane cap and bouy hole at the bow, and then got my daughter's car painter boyfriend to give the whole lot its first 3 coats of primer. The boyfriend departed not long after this, so my painter helper was short lived.
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby DJG Downunder » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:37 pm

Ahhh, well done, I ummm'd and arhhhh'd about the ply panels at the bow, but ended up using them...... you're right it takes a lot of stuffing around to get the bow shape right and I'm still not quite there yet.
Love the gunnels, They've come up rather well haven't they.
I also looked at the gunnels but decided it was beyond my current skills,....... however now that I've seen you're post,......... and I do have a Dremel,........ it's actually the same model as yours in fact....... and I'm sure the router would have other uses to justify the cost. :think: :think:
I eagerly await more posts... Have a "K".
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Mark » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:28 am

Thanks for Reposting all these Bazza. Your improvements a great. Have a k from me too :D
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:49 am

Well, before I move on to the superstructure, I'll just post some photos of how Idid my portholes. Those supplied in the kit are not really acceptable.
Also, the portholes need to be slightly recessed .... if thats possible at this scale.

To make the portholes I used brass tubing. I used an aluminium inner to keep their shape.

My apology - the green printing is useless
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:29 am

Mods to the superstucture are few and far between.
I had neever worked with brass, so this was virgin territory.
When I first started, I thought it was going to be a nightmare, but after a short time I actually began to enjoy it.
Joining sections without gaps ..... omg .... took some doing
Not all successfull, but overall, most part fitted really well.
A couple of notes to how I went about it.

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ISSUE 62
A word to the wise for those who have not attempted fitting the wrap around brass wall to the upper aft superstructure.

This is the first issue I have received where I have a significant fitting problem.

Once I realised the wraparound was too big, I checked Mark's build diary only to find a big red number.
I opened it in the faint hope of either an answer that I've got it wrong or someone else had the same problem.
No luck................Mark !

I then removed 1mm off each end piece. Still no go.
Then I checked Markus Oehm's build.
He had the same problem, plus a solution.
I was not going to follow Mark's solution and cut the brass wall in half and rejoin and I thought there was no need to go to all the trouble of placing filler around the corners if I could bend 2 even curves in the right spots using a drill bit of the correct cross section as a former...................Easy.
I used 2 pieces of spare 2nd planking to lengthen the deckhouse.
With the 2 mm removed from the ends, I've managed to get a reasonable fit, but it could be better.

Then I checked by test fitting the preformed decking.
Low and behold, the length was now perfect, but not wide enough.
I had bent the sheet and re straightened it once, this had been the second time, I was not going to try again.

But let me suggest for others, 0.5mm filler on each side wall and about 0.8mm filler at the end and the brasswork should fit perfectly. The decking will be a snug fit too.

Read more: http://buildthebismark.proboards.com/th ... z4ywv82Nzs

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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:59 am

One lesson I learned early on was not to use a standard paint on the brass bits.
It has no long time adhesive qualities and if the part has any flex, the paint will begin to flake.
I changed to an etching car paint and it works wonders

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I also made a few mods and alterations on the way

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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:04 am

I went a bit overboard here.
These additions will never be seen

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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Gundog » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:30 am

Hi Bazza, good to see another Bissie resurrected!

Take a look at Mustang's build for some ideas on this exhaust pipe. If he's taken his pictures down (I know he has taken some down a while ago) ask him if he still has them.
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby bruno » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:22 am

Hi Bazza.

Fine to see your Bismarck again.
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:27 am

OMG !!! ... I have hundreds of photos in photobucket

Some foreward superstructure pics and notes

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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:57 am

Construction of the main mast.
The main mast is a bit of a challenge. I still haven't glued the topmast in place yet, but once again, with reference to photos in 'The Bismarck - History & Destiny' pages 6 and 87, I've made some mods including an extra piece of piping, the rear signal light platform and the ladder access platform above it. Looks like that platform was accessed from a set of rungs.
I fabricated the small light from brass

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The hoist got mangled.
I patiently restored it, using photos from the actual ship, made it more representative and also used fine wire for supports not supplied with the kit.

Original construction

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the reconstruction, including plastic card used for destroyed superstructure

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Re: Bazza's build

Postby builder » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:31 pm

Great pictures, nice to see such work Bazza,
maby I can help with that brass bit,
do you know which issue,
I'll have a look tomorrow morning.
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Re: Bazza's build

Postby Bazza » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:33 pm

OOOOOOO .... great !
Thank you builder, I will research and try to give you the tree and part number tomorrow !
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